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General Discussion / Re: Missing Kansas
« Last post by Greg Gerk on October 06, 2014, 10:07:20 PM »
Take care of yourself Jason, come back when your able
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by Phillip Stocks on October 06, 2014, 11:25:27 AM »
Another point that I should raise in this discussion is the waved attendance requirement this year.  If we maintained our attendance requirement rule, our Chase eligible contenders in 2014 would be:

Mike Hebb
Tom McKeever
Greg Gerk                                         vs                          16 Drivers in our current Chase 1
Warren Pead
Phillip Stocks
Mike Koon

I bring this up because the attendance requirement would be 21 of 26 regular season races normally, to be chase eligible, and some drivers cannot meet this requirement due to other commitments (jobs , etc.)

We should consider this requirement in this discussion because this would probably drastically change expected attendance during our chase races.

Also, we should take note that even with the current system and 16 drivers eligible for chase, we are averaging 11-12 drivers per race.  This is the same numbers or maybe a little less than attendance achieved with older chase systems or no chase systems run in the past.

Just throwing this out there for consideration....
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by Phillip Stocks on October 06, 2014, 11:10:07 AM »
We actually are aligned with another League and had 25 car fields earlier in the year.  The drivers from the other League slowly stopped racing with us due to their preference to fixed setup racing.  There just does not seem to be enough drivers interested in the open-setup for larger fields.
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by 76_Jason Lance on October 06, 2014, 09:55:59 AM »
Every league I've raced in there have only been 15 or less guys racing in. With so many competing sims and mods we're doing good. Maybe think of doing a joint league? I've seen that improve attendance.
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by Phillip Stocks on October 06, 2014, 09:02:18 AM »
I apologize for my PMS'ing outburst here, especially to Greg, a good friend.  I have some real decisions to make about the future of this hobby, for me,  that I have enjoyed for so long. 

I am seriously interested in anyone that has an interest in running a League to provide the Pro/Elite venue for SCE.  Please PM me to express your interest.  I am just putting some feelers out there to give me the option to shut-down or make major changes to HDSR.   I may get to off-season and with some time-off feel completely different, but right now I am questioning HDSR Pro-Cup continuing into 2015.  I think SCE needs an Open-Set-Cup-Top Series for the hardcore racers like us and will do my best to preserve the Series.

Phillip   
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by Phillip Stocks on October 06, 2014, 08:48:00 AM »
Unfortunately, with our current attendance levels, we would have to limit it to 2 car teams for Team Points to make sense.  Right now, I think your team is the only official team in place.  Most of the guys are just running as individuals for the most part because of the field sizes.

I do like the idea of team points and if we had 18-20 drivers showing-up consistently, I think we could justify team points.  However, now that I really think about it, I have to admit there are things I like with the lack of focus on teams this year.  There is pros and cons to this issue.     
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General Discussion / Re: Missing Kansas
« Last post by Phillip Stocks on October 06, 2014, 08:38:14 AM »
Sorry to hear about your medical issues and I am glad you are feeling better now.  Hang in there, Bud.

Phillip
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by 76_Jason Lance on October 06, 2014, 02:37:06 AM »
I'd just like to see a team points system in place, and maybe manufacturer.
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General Discussion / Missing Kansas
« Last post by 76_Jason Lance on October 06, 2014, 02:25:22 AM »
I feel bad for having to miss Kansas, with it being my home track and I was looking forward to it after the win I had at Chicago. I had to miss it cause I thought I was dying from the neck pain and nausea I was in from the pain of cervical spinal stenosis. I had taken everything in my medicine arsenal muscle relaxers, nausea medicine, advil, another different kind of nausea pill, and yet nothing worked I was sick all day. I've only been getting 4-5 hours of sleep for a long time now. I got sick this time I think because I ran out of my nerve pain medicine that also had no refills on it on Friday and thought I could wait until Monday. It was a hassle getting it Sunday evening with doctors offices closed. I think my family had to get in personal contact with my doctor. I feel okay now, my neck still hurts but I'm not sick from it anymore. I do well just to be able to do one race a week here and moderate practice, then I hurt all the way the next week till the next race. As long as I have my medicine and do nothing in between races I can survive to run the 160 or so lap races. I missed being there with you guys and look forward to helping my team at Talladega where team work really comes into play.
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General Discussion / Re: Old Skool vs Nascar's Current System
« Last post by Marc Cohn on October 05, 2014, 07:20:00 PM »
I'd say keep lucky dogs, wave arounds, and do the 12 race championship system with a season-long championship as well if that system is to be changed. However, I really like the challenge of the current Chase system the most - as a fan and driver it is absolutely nerve-wracking and this intensity adds a lot to the excitement in my opinion. The most exciting Chase prior to this year's format change for me was 2011 - the race at Homestead was a battle for the ages and almost as if not just as exciting as the 1992 Hooters 500 as far as season finales go.
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